Question by Lady Morgana: How many “alcoholics” out there have tried Rational Recovery instead of AA?
How effective would you say etiher of these programs is for you?

I was in AA for 3 years and have now gone on to RR. It works for me, getting rid of the religious stuff and putting in personal responsibility and personal power. I am interested in other people’s experiences.
actually, guyster, I have only asked it once BEFPRE, and I am re-posting it TODAY in this place and one other in order to get more responses, since there were only 4 or 5 answers form the one and only previous time I posted it, but gee thanks for keeping track of what questions I post. What a guy.

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Answer by guyster
Probably just as many as the last three times you asked this.

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Question by Lady Morgana: How many “alcoholics” out there have tried Rational Recovery instead of AA?
What is your opinion about it?
Information about it: Rational Recovery isn’t really new, but it is newer than Aa. You can google the name and it goes straight to their web site, whihc has a lot of great information abou tit. I read the book. It is GREAT for me, as an AA member who got fed up with all the religion in it.

Rational Recovery is almost the opposite of AA, and the book is q
sorry about the blip…

Rational Recpvery is fairly critical of AA. The book is a must read if you want to be cured, yes cured, of your addition, and not be called an alcoholic anymore. You will never drink or use again, and the responsibility lies with you, not some Higher Power. You recognize your addicive voice, and you take charge of it.

I really lie this program and recommend it to all. I ave been in AA for 3 years, have been sober for those 3 years, and now I intend on never drinking again in my life, looking at my whole life without fear. I am eager to find out the opinions of others.
sorry about the typos, I type too fast sometimes

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Answer by Star Struck
you know…

I have been through the whole AA bit back when I was in college, and I just don’t know about it…. it really kind of forces you to see it their way, or the high way….

so…

I would like to give that rational recovery a go and read up more on it. Sounds like it has a good basis to it..

of course, whatever works for someone is the one they should use. Whatever works is good….

but AA didn’t really do it for me.

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Question by Sunshine: Does anyone know about “Rational Recovery?” Has it worked for anyone you know?

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Answer by NothingToLose
If you are referring to the program created by Jack Trimpey, which refers to AVRT or the “addictive voice”, then yes I know about it and it works. I highly recommend it.

I am a spiritual person, I believe in God and the “higher power” BUT when it comes to addiction, it is terribly important to understand that our brains and minds function on so many complicated levels – if you stop to think about what an addiction is (to drugs, pills, alcohol, nicotine), then the process described by the Rational Recovery method makes perfect sense.

It’s easy to read all of the negative “press” that this guy has received and believe it, but the bottom line is – do you (or whoever the addicted person is) want to continue to give up all control over your life?

It is not for the faint-hearted or weak willed – if you embark on this process, YOU will be accountable to YOURSELF – for some people that is the scariest part of the process.

Hope that answers your question. It works, but YOU HAVE TO WORK TOO. Just like anything else.

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Question by mrslovettwannabe: whose read the book “rational recovery”? whats it about, etc? your thoughts on it?

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Answer by vanessaj
This is the first I hear of the book so I cannot give you personal thoughts on the book, but on Amazon.com they have customer reviews that seem really helpful.

Here’s the link (reviews/comments are closer to the bottom of the page).

http://www.amazon.com/Rational-Recovery-Cure-Substance-Addiction/dp/0671528580/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1201762958&sr=8-1

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Question by almintaka: How well do alcohol recovery programs actually work?
Hi Everyone,
Alcoholics Anonymous (“AA”, spiritual), Rational Recovery (“RR”, cognitive), SMART (cognitive), Save Ourselves (“SOS”, cognitive) and other alcohol recovery programs all claim varying levels of success in helping alcoholics on the road to recovery. However, there is a lot of controversy surrounding their claims, as even a quick search on the internet will reveal. Viewing this chaos of opinions from “outside the box”, it certainly seems as though they’re all blowing smoke. Anecdotal arguments are used, tabloid-style quotations are touted as being authentic, and “my way or the highway” rationalizing is often used. One thing they all have in common is that apparently none of them has a handle on real statistics (though I could be wrong here; I just haven’t found any). In addition, independent studies (NIAA, Dawson) have shown that these programs are no more successful than no program at all. What’s your opion? Do one or more of these programs work better than nothing?

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Answer by Rachel
I think any recovery program works only as well as the time & persistance the addict puts into staying clean.

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Question by almintaka: How well do alcohol recovery programs actually work?
Hi Everyone,
Alcoholics Anonymous (“AA”, spiritual), Rational Recovery (“RR”, cognitive), SMART (cognitive), Save Ourselves (“SOS”, cognitive) and other alcohol recovery programs all claim varying levels of success in helping alcoholics on the road to recovery. However, there is a lot of controversy surrounding their claims, as even a quick search on the internet will reveal. Viewing this chaos of opinions from “outside the box”, it certainly seems as though they’re all blowing smoke. Anecdotal arguments are used, tabloid-style quotations are touted as being authentic, and “my way or the highway” rationalizing is often used. One thing they all have in common is that apparently none of them has a handle on real statistics (though I could be wrong here; I just haven’t found any). In addition, independent studies (NIAA, Dawson) have shown that these programs are no more successful than no program at all. What’s your opion? Do one or more of these programs work better than nothing?

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Answer by Rachel
I think any recovery program works only as well as the time & persistance the addict puts into staying clean.

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